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		<title>By: DeisCane</title>
		<link>http://www.kosherblog.net/2007/01/24/chocolate-velvet-ice-cream/comment-page-1/#comment-5010</link>
		<dc:creator>DeisCane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need a machete and even then, it usually makes a mess. :-)</description>
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		<title>By: elf</title>
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		<dc:creator>elf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting recipe, but I haven&#039;t figured out how to open a coconut without making an enormous mess.  Any tips?</description>
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		<title>By: Charles Cohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Cohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was on a raw vegan diet, I made carob coconut pudding (using carob powder instead of chocolate, since chocolate is a cooked food and was not acceptable for the raw diet).  Now that I&#039;m off that diet, I could use cocoa powder.  The use of coconut is a possible answer to replacing dairy.

Meat from 4 young coconuts

1 - 2 cups of water from the coconuts, depending on the amount of meat (use the rest for something else)

2 inches vanilla bean  (Vanilla extract is not a suitable substitute, since it contains alcohol which is not boiled off, as it usually is in cooking.)

½ c raw carob powder

14 large medjool dates with pits removed

Blend up the water, vanilla and carob.  Then blend in the dates.  Finally blend in the coconut meat.

I&#039;m not kosher, but the raw vegan diet is automatically kosher, since there is neither milk nor meat.  That makes the diet so debilitating that my wife and I had to give it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was on a raw vegan diet, I made carob coconut pudding (using carob powder instead of chocolate, since chocolate is a cooked food and was not acceptable for the raw diet).  Now that I&#8217;m off that diet, I could use cocoa powder.  The use of coconut is a possible answer to replacing dairy.</p>
<p>Meat from 4 young coconuts</p>
<p>1 &#8211; 2 cups of water from the coconuts, depending on the amount of meat (use the rest for something else)</p>
<p>2 inches vanilla bean  (Vanilla extract is not a suitable substitute, since it contains alcohol which is not boiled off, as it usually is in cooking.)</p>
<p>½ c raw carob powder</p>
<p>14 large medjool dates with pits removed</p>
<p>Blend up the water, vanilla and carob.  Then blend in the dates.  Finally blend in the coconut meat.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not kosher, but the raw vegan diet is automatically kosher, since there is neither milk nor meat.  That makes the diet so debilitating that my wife and I had to give it up.</p>
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		<title>By: elf</title>
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		<dc:creator>elf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill:
I&#039;ve seen TJ&#039;s, but I&#039;m pretty satisfied with Shaw&#039;s for non-alkalized cocoa.

Janet:
I haven&#039;t had MB sorbet.  Is it parve?  I made some chocolate sorbet recently with Droste cocoa. It was slightly bitter, and a bit gritty.  (You can read my review of the recipe &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/107767?skipDetails=true&amp;firstReviewIndex=0&amp;lastReviewIndex=7&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, under &quot;navelofwine.&quot;)  I will probably try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/100168&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this recipe&lt;/a&gt; next; it&#039;s made with bittersweet chocolate rather than cocoa.
&lt;i&gt;Btw, all pure cocoa is KLP without hashgacha.&lt;/i&gt;
Do you know whether this is true of alkalized (Dutch-process) cocoa?

Meredith wrote:
&lt;i&gt;ELF, thanks for turning me on to SHF!&lt;/i&gt;
I&#039;m glad that someone else at KB likes it, given my recent obsession :)

Thanks for posting about the kashrut status of ice cream makers.  I was going to raise the subject myself, but I didn&#039;t feel like starting a controversy.

&lt;i&gt;No kitchen with an ice cream maker is complete without a copy of Ben &amp; Jerry’s cookbook&lt;/i&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill:<br />
I&#8217;ve seen TJ&#8217;s, but I&#8217;m pretty satisfied with Shaw&#8217;s for non-alkalized cocoa.</p>
<p>Janet:<br />
I haven&#8217;t had MB sorbet.  Is it parve?  I made some chocolate sorbet recently with Droste cocoa. It was slightly bitter, and a bit gritty.  (You can read my review of the recipe <a href="http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/107767?skipDetails=true&amp;firstReviewIndex=0&amp;lastReviewIndex=7" rel="nofollow">here</a>, under &#8220;navelofwine.&#8221;)  I will probably try <a href="http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/100168" rel="nofollow">this recipe</a> next; it&#8217;s made with bittersweet chocolate rather than cocoa.<br />
<i>Btw, all pure cocoa is KLP without hashgacha.</i><br />
Do you know whether this is true of alkalized (Dutch-process) cocoa?</p>
<p>Meredith wrote:<br />
<i>ELF, thanks for turning me on to SHF!</i><br />
I&#8217;m glad that someone else at KB likes it, given my recent obsession :)</p>
<p>Thanks for posting about the kashrut status of ice cream makers.  I was going to raise the subject myself, but I didn&#8217;t feel like starting a controversy.</p>
<p><i>No kitchen with an ice cream maker is complete without a copy of Ben &amp; Jerry’s cookbook</i></p>
<p>Hmm&#8230; Thanks for the tip&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ELF, thanks for turning me on to SHF!  I hope to use SHF #10, which is honey, for the meal I&#039;m planning for Tu b&#039;Shvat -- I want to hit all seven species, and the best I&#039;d been able to come up with for honey thus far was a Fishbein fig salad with honey dressing.


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I tried posting something along these lines earlier in the week, but for some reason it didn&#039;t go up:

1) As an FYI on ice cream machine kashrus, we were told that so long as the ice cream machine is cleaned with cold/luke warm water, there is no problem using it for both dairy and pareve, and that the pareve ice creams/sorbets can be served off of meat dishes.  (According to my sister-in-law, there is at least one opinion holding that if you store dairy in the basin for more than 24 hours, the basin becomes dairy.  While this isn&#039;t the majority&#039;s stance, we try to clean our basin within 24 hours to avoid any issues with this opinion.)

2) No kitchen with an ice cream maker is complete without a copy of Ben &amp; Jerry&#039;s cookbook, available at Amazon.com for $9.95.  It has a nice mix of classic B&amp;J flavors, including Heath Bar Crunch and Cherry Garcia, unmarketed/retired flavors, and sections on sorbet (great for Shabbos), dessert sauces, baked goods, chocolate ice cream, and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ELF, thanks for turning me on to SHF!  I hope to use SHF #10, which is honey, for the meal I&#8217;m planning for Tu b&#8217;Shvat &#8212; I want to hit all seven species, and the best I&#8217;d been able to come up with for honey thus far was a Fishbein fig salad with honey dressing.</p>
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<p>I tried posting something along these lines earlier in the week, but for some reason it didn&#8217;t go up:</p>
<p>1) As an FYI on ice cream machine kashrus, we were told that so long as the ice cream machine is cleaned with cold/luke warm water, there is no problem using it for both dairy and pareve, and that the pareve ice creams/sorbets can be served off of meat dishes.  (According to my sister-in-law, there is at least one opinion holding that if you store dairy in the basin for more than 24 hours, the basin becomes dairy.  While this isn&#8217;t the majority&#8217;s stance, we try to clean our basin within 24 hours to avoid any issues with this opinion.)</p>
<p>2) No kitchen with an ice cream maker is complete without a copy of Ben &amp; Jerry&#8217;s cookbook, available at Amazon.com for $9.95.  It has a nice mix of classic B&amp;J flavors, including Heath Bar Crunch and Cherry Garcia, unmarketed/retired flavors, and sections on sorbet (great for Shabbos), dessert sauces, baked goods, chocolate ice cream, and more.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That looks tasty.

Chocolate sorbet with Market Basket brand cocoa is pretty rich already, although it does have a detectably bitter undertone --- does Dutch process not have that?

(Btw, all pure cocoa is KLP without hashgacha.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That looks tasty.</p>
<p>Chocolate sorbet with Market Basket brand cocoa is pretty rich already, although it does have a detectably bitter undertone &#8212; does Dutch process not have that?</p>
<p>(Btw, all pure cocoa is KLP without hashgacha.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trader Joe&#039;s sells a decent cocoa powder under their store brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trader Joe&#8217;s sells a decent cocoa powder under their store brand.</p>
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		<title>By: elf</title>
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		<dc:creator>elf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;By the way, I used store brand cocoa.&lt;/i&gt;

I imagine that this would be great with any cocoa.  I do think the good-quality bittersweet chocolate made a difference, though.

&lt;i&gt;I have been tempted to make it but not freeze, just serving it as chocolate mousse.&lt;/i&gt;

I think it would be more like custard than mousse.  You could probably make it more mousse-like by setting aside half the cream, whipping it, and then folding it into the custard mixture after it cooled.  Personally, I&#039;m much too excited about my ice cream maker to consider that sort of adaptation, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>By the way, I used store brand cocoa.</i></p>
<p>I imagine that this would be great with any cocoa.  I do think the good-quality bittersweet chocolate made a difference, though.</p>
<p><i>I have been tempted to make it but not freeze, just serving it as chocolate mousse.</i></p>
<p>I think it would be more like custard than mousse.  You could probably make it more mousse-like by setting aside half the cream, whipping it, and then folding it into the custard mixture after it cooled.  Personally, I&#8217;m much too excited about my ice cream maker to consider that sort of adaptation, though.</p>
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		<title>By: HB</title>
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		<dc:creator>HB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have made this recipe once or twice and agree that it is amazing.  By the way, I used store brand cocoa.

I have been tempted to make it but not freeze, just serving it as chocolate mousse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made this recipe once or twice and agree that it is amazing.  By the way, I used store brand cocoa.</p>
<p>I have been tempted to make it but not freeze, just serving it as chocolate mousse.</p>
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