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		<title>By: DeisCane</title>
		<link>http://www.kosherblog.net/2007/01/24/chocolate-velvet-ice-cream/#comment-5010</link>
		<dc:creator>DeisCane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need a machete and even then, it usually makes a mess. :-)</description>
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		<title>By: elf</title>
		<link>http://www.kosherblog.net/2007/01/24/chocolate-velvet-ice-cream/#comment-5009</link>
		<dc:creator>elf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting recipe, but I haven't figured out how to open a coconut without making an enormous mess.  Any tips?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting recipe, but I haven&#8217;t figured out how to open a coconut without making an enormous mess.  Any tips?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Cohn</title>
		<link>http://www.kosherblog.net/2007/01/24/chocolate-velvet-ice-cream/#comment-5008</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Cohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was on a raw vegan diet, I made carob coconut pudding (using carob powder instead of chocolate, since chocolate is a cooked food and was not acceptable for the raw diet).  Now that I'm off that diet, I could use cocoa powder.  The use of coconut is a possible answer to replacing dairy.

Meat from 4 young coconuts

1 - 2 cups of water from the coconuts, depending on the amount of meat (use the rest for something else)

2 inches vanilla bean  (Vanilla extract is not a suitable substitute, since it contains alcohol which is not boiled off, as it usually is in cooking.)

½ c raw carob powder

14 large medjool dates with pits removed

Blend up the water, vanilla and carob.  Then blend in the dates.  Finally blend in the coconut meat.

I'm not kosher, but the raw vegan diet is automatically kosher, since there is neither milk nor meat.  That makes the diet so debilitating that my wife and I had to give it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was on a raw vegan diet, I made carob coconut pudding (using carob powder instead of chocolate, since chocolate is a cooked food and was not acceptable for the raw diet).  Now that I&#8217;m off that diet, I could use cocoa powder.  The use of coconut is a possible answer to replacing dairy.</p>
<p>Meat from 4 young coconuts</p>
<p>1 - 2 cups of water from the coconuts, depending on the amount of meat (use the rest for something else)</p>
<p>2 inches vanilla bean  (Vanilla extract is not a suitable substitute, since it contains alcohol which is not boiled off, as it usually is in cooking.)</p>
<p>½ c raw carob powder</p>
<p>14 large medjool dates with pits removed</p>
<p>Blend up the water, vanilla and carob.  Then blend in the dates.  Finally blend in the coconut meat.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not kosher, but the raw vegan diet is automatically kosher, since there is neither milk nor meat.  That makes the diet so debilitating that my wife and I had to give it up.</p>
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		<title>By: elf</title>
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		<dc:creator>elf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill:
I've seen TJ's, but I'm pretty satisfied with Shaw's for non-alkalized cocoa.

Janet:
I haven't had MB sorbet.  Is it parve?  I made some chocolate sorbet recently with Droste cocoa. It was slightly bitter, and a bit gritty.  (You can read my review of the recipe &lt;a href="http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/107767?skipDetails=true&#38;firstReviewIndex=0&#38;lastReviewIndex=7" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, under "navelofwine.")  I will probably try &lt;a href="http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/100168" rel="nofollow"&gt;this recipe&lt;/a&gt; next; it's made with bittersweet chocolate rather than cocoa.
&lt;i&gt;Btw, all pure cocoa is KLP without hashgacha.&lt;/i&gt;
Do you know whether this is true of alkalized (Dutch-process) cocoa?

Meredith wrote:
&lt;i&gt;ELF, thanks for turning me on to SHF!&lt;/i&gt;
I'm glad that someone else at KB likes it, given my recent obsession :)

Thanks for posting about the kashrut status of ice cream makers.  I was going to raise the subject myself, but I didn't feel like starting a controversy.

&lt;i&gt;No kitchen with an ice cream maker is complete without a copy of Ben &#38; Jerry’s cookbook&lt;/i&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill:<br />
I&#8217;ve seen TJ&#8217;s, but I&#8217;m pretty satisfied with Shaw&#8217;s for non-alkalized cocoa.</p>
<p>Janet:<br />
I haven&#8217;t had MB sorbet.  Is it parve?  I made some chocolate sorbet recently with Droste cocoa. It was slightly bitter, and a bit gritty.  (You can read my review of the recipe <a href="http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/107767?skipDetails=true&amp;firstReviewIndex=0&amp;lastReviewIndex=7" rel="nofollow">here</a>, under &#8220;navelofwine.&#8221;)  I will probably try <a href="http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/100168" rel="nofollow">this recipe</a> next; it&#8217;s made with bittersweet chocolate rather than cocoa.<br />
<i>Btw, all pure cocoa is KLP without hashgacha.</i><br />
Do you know whether this is true of alkalized (Dutch-process) cocoa?</p>
<p>Meredith wrote:<br />
<i>ELF, thanks for turning me on to SHF!</i><br />
I&#8217;m glad that someone else at KB likes it, given my recent obsession :)</p>
<p>Thanks for posting about the kashrut status of ice cream makers.  I was going to raise the subject myself, but I didn&#8217;t feel like starting a controversy.</p>
<p><i>No kitchen with an ice cream maker is complete without a copy of Ben &amp; Jerry’s cookbook</i></p>
<p>Hmm&#8230; Thanks for the tip&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meredith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ELF, thanks for turning me on to SHF!  I hope to use SHF #10, which is honey, for the meal I'm planning for Tu b'Shvat -- I want to hit all seven species, and the best I'd been able to come up with for honey thus far was a Fishbein fig salad with honey dressing.


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I tried posting something along these lines earlier in the week, but for some reason it didn't go up:

1) As an FYI on ice cream machine kashrus, we were told that so long as the ice cream machine is cleaned with cold/luke warm water, there is no problem using it for both dairy and pareve, and that the pareve ice creams/sorbets can be served off of meat dishes.  (According to my sister-in-law, there is at least one opinion holding that if you store dairy in the basin for more than 24 hours, the basin becomes dairy.  While this isn't the majority's stance, we try to clean our basin within 24 hours to avoid any issues with this opinion.)

2) No kitchen with an ice cream maker is complete without a copy of Ben &#38; Jerry's cookbook, available at Amazon.com for $9.95.  It has a nice mix of classic B&#38;J flavors, including Heath Bar Crunch and Cherry Garcia, unmarketed/retired flavors, and sections on sorbet (great for Shabbos), dessert sauces, baked goods, chocolate ice cream, and more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ELF, thanks for turning me on to SHF!  I hope to use SHF #10, which is honey, for the meal I&#8217;m planning for Tu b&#8217;Shvat &#8212; I want to hit all seven species, and the best I&#8217;d been able to come up with for honey thus far was a Fishbein fig salad with honey dressing.</p>
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<p>I tried posting something along these lines earlier in the week, but for some reason it didn&#8217;t go up:</p>
<p>1) As an FYI on ice cream machine kashrus, we were told that so long as the ice cream machine is cleaned with cold/luke warm water, there is no problem using it for both dairy and pareve, and that the pareve ice creams/sorbets can be served off of meat dishes.  (According to my sister-in-law, there is at least one opinion holding that if you store dairy in the basin for more than 24 hours, the basin becomes dairy.  While this isn&#8217;t the majority&#8217;s stance, we try to clean our basin within 24 hours to avoid any issues with this opinion.)</p>
<p>2) No kitchen with an ice cream maker is complete without a copy of Ben &amp; Jerry&#8217;s cookbook, available at Amazon.com for $9.95.  It has a nice mix of classic B&amp;J flavors, including Heath Bar Crunch and Cherry Garcia, unmarketed/retired flavors, and sections on sorbet (great for Shabbos), dessert sauces, baked goods, chocolate ice cream, and more.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That looks tasty.

Chocolate sorbet with Market Basket brand cocoa is pretty rich already, although it does have a detectably bitter undertone --- does Dutch process not have that?

(Btw, all pure cocoa is KLP without hashgacha.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That looks tasty.</p>
<p>Chocolate sorbet with Market Basket brand cocoa is pretty rich already, although it does have a detectably bitter undertone &#8212; does Dutch process not have that?</p>
<p>(Btw, all pure cocoa is KLP without hashgacha.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trader Joe's sells a decent cocoa powder under their store brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trader Joe&#8217;s sells a decent cocoa powder under their store brand.</p>
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		<title>By: elf</title>
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		<dc:creator>elf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 05:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;By the way, I used store brand cocoa.&lt;/i&gt;

I imagine that this would be great with any cocoa.  I do think the good-quality bittersweet chocolate made a difference, though.

&lt;i&gt;I have been tempted to make it but not freeze, just serving it as chocolate mousse.&lt;/i&gt;

I think it would be more like custard than mousse.  You could probably make it more mousse-like by setting aside half the cream, whipping it, and then folding it into the custard mixture after it cooled.  Personally, I'm much too excited about my ice cream maker to consider that sort of adaptation, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>By the way, I used store brand cocoa.</i></p>
<p>I imagine that this would be great with any cocoa.  I do think the good-quality bittersweet chocolate made a difference, though.</p>
<p><i>I have been tempted to make it but not freeze, just serving it as chocolate mousse.</i></p>
<p>I think it would be more like custard than mousse.  You could probably make it more mousse-like by setting aside half the cream, whipping it, and then folding it into the custard mixture after it cooled.  Personally, I&#8217;m much too excited about my ice cream maker to consider that sort of adaptation, though.</p>
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		<title>By: HB</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have made this recipe once or twice and agree that it is amazing.  By the way, I used store brand cocoa.

I have been tempted to make it but not freeze, just serving it as chocolate mousse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made this recipe once or twice and agree that it is amazing.  By the way, I used store brand cocoa.</p>
<p>I have been tempted to make it but not freeze, just serving it as chocolate mousse.</p>
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