Comments on: Kosher Kahlua returns (When it rains, it pours…) http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/ Finding the finer side of everyday kosher living Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:21:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Jonathan (not Abbett) http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/comment-page-1/#comment-21551 Jonathan (not Abbett) Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:45:29 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/#comment-21551 This is from Rabbi Eliezer Eidlitz, an independent kashrus authority, when asked about the London Beis Din's position on Kahlua (ok unless purchased in the US). Rabbi Eidlitz's website, http://www.kosherquest.org/ is an excellent resource. I think they have old information. It used to be that the Kahlua produced in Mexico was done on it's own lines. Now even there it is an issue of contamination. Hiram Walker bottles for the U.S. and has machinery issues. As far as I know this is now a problem anywhere in the world. This is from Rabbi Eliezer Eidlitz, an independent kashrus authority, when asked about the London Beis Din’s position on Kahlua (ok unless purchased in the US). Rabbi Eidlitz’s website, http://www.kosherquest.org/ is an excellent resource.

I think they have old information. It used to be that the Kahlua produced in Mexico was done on it’s own lines. Now even there it is an issue of contamination. Hiram Walker bottles for the U.S. and has machinery issues. As far as I know this is now a problem anywhere in the world.

]]> By: Jonathan (not Abbett) http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/comment-page-1/#comment-21525 Jonathan (not Abbett) Mon, 01 Dec 2008 21:31:01 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/#comment-21525 I've consulted an authority I trust who has specific information about the matter. I'm waiting for his permission to post his response publicly - but it sounds like there are indeed legitimate concerns with Kahlua. Furthermore, the London Beis Din may have outdated information. I’ve consulted an authority I trust who has specific information about the matter. I’m waiting for his permission to post his response publicly – but it sounds like there are indeed legitimate concerns with Kahlua. Furthermore, the London Beis Din may have outdated information.

]]> By: Jonathan (not Abbett) http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/comment-page-1/#comment-21475 Jonathan (not Abbett) Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:03:40 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/#comment-21475 Roy, What you say may be true. That doesn't make suspicion of the OU unwarranted. Roy,

What you say may be true. That doesn’t make suspicion of the OU unwarranted.

]]> By: Roy http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/comment-page-1/#comment-16165 Roy Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:14:30 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/#comment-16165 The problem with Kahlua bottled in the US is, indeed, related to the production facility-specifically the storage tanks. Cynicism about financial motives on the part of the OU is unwarranted. The problem with Kahlua bottled in the US is, indeed, related to the production facility-specifically the storage tanks. Cynicism about financial motives on the part of the OU is unwarranted.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/comment-page-1/#comment-15774 Jeremy Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:12:17 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/#comment-15774 <a href="//www.koshercertification.org.uk/”" rel="nofollow">Kosher Certification</a> Kosher Certification

]]> By: Avraham http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/comment-page-1/#comment-3648 Avraham Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:47:42 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/#comment-3648 Dear & Kind People, My friend who went to medical school in Guadajara, Jalisco, Mexico(transfered up to the U.S.) went through the plant years ago & went through it before the "holier than thou" OU declared that Kahlua needed a ko$her $ymbol on it. There is nothing in the fine Kahlua beverage that is prohibited it i$ a matter of $$. The London Bet Din is most correct in its ascertion that the product is ko$her without $ign on the bottle. L'Chayim. Not KFP. Dear & Kind People,
My friend who went to medical school in Guadajara, Jalisco, Mexico(transfered up to the U.S.) went through the plant years ago & went through it before the “holier than thou” OU declared that Kahlua needed a ko$her $ymbol on it.
There is nothing in the fine Kahlua beverage that is prohibited it i$ a matter of $$. The London Bet Din is most correct in its ascertion that the product is ko$her without $ign on the bottle. L’Chayim. Not KFP.

]]> By: Milhouse http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/comment-page-1/#comment-3647 Milhouse Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:38:55 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/#comment-3647 You probably can't. You probably can’t.

]]> By: malkie http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/comment-page-1/#comment-3646 malkie Mon, 08 Oct 2007 21:13:10 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/#comment-3646 Where can I buy kosher kahlua in the New York area or upstate N.Y area. Where can I buy kosher kahlua in the New York area or upstate N.Y area.

]]> By: nonmevushalmarc http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/comment-page-1/#comment-3645 nonmevushalmarc Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:09:11 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/#comment-3645 A high level of skepticism is also warranted here, I think, since the loss of the hashgacha was, I believe, purely economic/financial and had nothing to do with the kashrut of the product itself. A high level of skepticism is also warranted here, I think, since the loss of the hashgacha was, I believe, purely economic/financial and had nothing to do with the kashrut of the product itself.

]]> By: jabbett http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/comment-page-1/#comment-3644 jabbett Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:18:18 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2006/08/27/when-it-rains-it-pours/#comment-3644 While it's natural to be skeptical -- and I certainly am -- I think exiled2tx has more first-hand experience in the industry, and we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the potential for actual kashrut issues. I do believe, however, that the proper response would be to explain that it's an issue of production lines, etc., rather than to be completely silent. I understand the need for confidentiality with regard to product formulations, or the makeup of a manufacturing plant, but in the post-Monsey kashrut climate, we consumers deserve a certain minimum amount of information about how these certifiers operate. I'm getting kinda tired of sitting here trying to guess why we're being yanked around, Kahlua or otherwise. While it’s natural to be skeptical — and I certainly am — I think exiled2tx has more first-hand experience in the industry, and we shouldn’t be so quick to dismiss the potential for actual kashrut issues.

I do believe, however, that the proper response would be to explain that it’s an issue of production lines, etc., rather than to be completely silent. I understand the need for confidentiality with regard to product formulations, or the makeup of a manufacturing plant, but in the post-Monsey kashrut climate, we consumers deserve a certain minimum amount of information about how these certifiers operate. I’m getting kinda tired of sitting here trying to guess why we’re being yanked around, Kahlua or otherwise.

]]>