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Our traditional deep-fried Chanukah turkey

By jabbett
Published January, 20 2006 4:06 pm

I was very happy to learn that my parents hadn’t yet used their new electric turkey fryer, so when we packed up to visit them on Christmas weekend, I made sure to take along a 14-pound Rubashkin turkey. Erev Chanukah, a few hours before sunset, we heated up three gallons of corn oil on the back porch, rubbed the turkey with spices, and gave it a dunk.

Deep frying a kosher turkey for Chanukah

Only minutes later, our turkey was golden brown and fully cooked. Using great care and giant protective gloves, we lifted the basket out, let the turkey drain, and then removed to it a towel-lined tray. A big chef’s knife made quick work of the breast meat; the legs and and wings pulled off easily.

Beautifully fried kosher turkey

This was certainly the juiciest turkey I’d ever eaten, hands down, but it was sadly bereft of flavor. Bland meat, with hints of oil. The instructions made mention of a “flavor injector,” but, frankly, those things scare me, so I’ve never tried. Is that the only way to get some taste into a fried turkey? Suggestions welcome.

10 comments so far (Post your own)
1.At 9:05 am on January 22nd, 2006, velorutionary wrote:

Brining the turkey beforehand could be the difference. Adding orange juice, oranges/lemons herbs, brown sugar/honey, chicken stock etc. to the brining liquid can help in the flavor department.

2.At 12:44 pm on January 22nd, 2006, Milhouse wrote:

Isn’t the turkey already brined by the kashering? I thought brining was only for treif turkeys. Would a second brining help, or has the meat already absorbed all it will take?

3.At 5:17 pm on January 22nd, 2006, velorutionary wrote:

In my experience, Kosher turkeys have benefited from brining, and keep in mind that you are also adding other ingredients to the brining solution.

4.At 9:47 pm on January 22nd, 2006, jabbett wrote:

Kosher turkeys are already soaked and salted, which, in terms of adding moisture, is equivalent to standard brining. A “flavor” brine (rather than a salt water brine) sounds promising. I guess you could just call it a marinade?

5.At 9:38 am on January 23rd, 2006, harry wrote:

I always buy a turkey neck and two wings at the butcher, roast them, throw them in pot with vegetables then make a robust brown turkey stock. Once the stock is cooked and reduced and delicious I strain and inject the stock into the turkey every fifteen minutes as the turkey roasts. This probably isn’t an option while frying but it’s a sure fire way of getting a flavorful turkey when roasting or bbq’ing.

6.At 8:23 am on January 26th, 2006, DeisCane wrote:

I’ve always heard you should use peanut oil, which adds a very minor nutty flavor, if one at all, rather than the “oily” flavor of corn oil.

Flavor injectors are the way to go, though, regardless. It’s not that hard, and the ingredients are basic…some herbs you like, and some moisture, voila.

7.At 9:47 pm on January 30th, 2006, shayt wrote:

If you think about, re-brining the turkey would work. I was a biology major in college (Brandeis ‘01) so bear with my geeky explanation. Brining a turkey works because the salt concentration in the brine solution is higher in the brining solution then in the turkey meat which causes water to go into the meat because water always goes from areas of high salt concentration to a lower concentration. Once equilibrium between the brine and the cells of the turkey is reached water will move back and forth between the brine and the turkey so the water should bring flavors from the brine into the turkey.

Also, jabbet, a brine is not a marinade. A brine is a salt water solution while a marinade is usually an acidic liquid which tenderizes the meat. Does the same thing, but works through different methods.

Just what I said it was going to be, a geeky explanation……. Go Alton Brown!

8.At 9:53 am on January 31st, 2006, Jonathan wrote:

Shayt has it close, but not entirely right. I’ll have to check in McGee when I get home tonight to get a full explanation for you, but osmosis works the other way — water will flow through a semi-permeable membrane from an area of low solute (in this case salt) concentration to an area of high solute concentration. You can think of it as diffusion of water, from high concentration of water to low concentration of water. If the salt concentration of the brining solution were higher than the solute concentration in the turkey cells, then water would flow out of the turkey — we don’t want this to happen. But if the salt concentration of the brining solution were a bit lower than the solute concentration of the turkey, then we’re in business. I’ll check later to get a full explanation, but didn’t want people to end up in osmotic disequilibrium :)

9.At 1:15 pm on January 31st, 2006, shayt wrote:

Jonathan,

Thanks for calling me out on my error. You are right I had it backwards. I havent had a bio lesson in over 5 years so its my bad.

Water does go from a low salt concentration solution to a higher one. But still a brine causes water soluble flavors to be taken up by the cells of the meat therebye causing them to taste a whole lot better. So even if you brine a kosher turkey, I think that once equilibrium is reached there is the same amount of water moving into the turkey as moving out of the turkey and the liquid coming in brings with it all of the flavors from the brine.

Last Thanksgiving I brined a josher turkey, and it really did make it taste a whole lot better.

10.At 9:20 pm on January 31st, 2006, Jonathan wrote:

Here’s what Harold McGee has to say about brining meat in On Food and Cooking:

The tendency of modern meats to dry out led cooks to rediscover light brining, a traditional method in Scandinavia and elsewhere. The meats, typically poultry or pork, are immersed in a brine containing 3 to 6% salt by weight for anywere from a few hours to two days (depending on thickness) before being cooked as usual. They come out noticeably juicier.

Brining has two initial effects. First, salt disrupts the structure of the muscle filaments. A 3% salt solution (2 tablespoons per quart/30 gm per liter) dissolves parts of the protein structure that supports the contracting filaments, and a 5.5% solution (4 tablespoons per quart/60 gm per liter) partly dissolves the filaments themselves. Second, the interactions of salt and proteins result in a greater water-holding capacity in the muscle cells, which then absorb water from the brine. (The inward movement of salt and water and disruptions of the muscle filaments into the meat also increase its absorption of aromatic molecules from any herbs and spices in the brine.) The meat’s weight increases by 10% or more. When cooked, the meat still loses around 20% of its weight in moisture, but this loss is counter-balanced by the brine absorbed, so the moisture loss is effectively cut in half. In addition, the dissolved protein filaments can’t coagulate into normally dense aggregates, so the cooked meat seems more tender. Because the brine works its way in from the outside, it has its earliest and strongest effects on the meat region most likely to be overcooked, so even a brief, incomplete soaking can make a difference.

The obvious disadvantage of brining is that it makes both the meat and its drippings quite salty. Some recipes balance the saltiness by including sugar or such ingredients as fruit juice or buttermilk, which provide both sweetness and sourness.

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