Comments on: La Briute “Turkey and Mashed Potatoes” Meal http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/ Finding the finer side of everyday kosher living Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:53:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Milhouse http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1910 Milhouse Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:14:20 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1910 Yes, they're very good. The only problem is when you go somewhere where you have no access to a microwave or to boiling water. At many hotels, if you take it down to the front desk or to the lobby restaurant and ask them to nuke it for you they will. But sometimes you're not at a hotel, or they won't do it for you. PS: More hotel hints: Back in the days when you could fly with wine but not with corkscrews (now it's the exact opposite!) I found that any hotel bar will gladly lend you a corkscrew or even open your (mevushal) bottle for you. And I've had the experience of handing a can over to the concierge, and ten minutes later having room service bring it up to my room, open and on a plate :-) Yes, they’re very good. The only problem is when you go somewhere where you have no access to a microwave or to boiling water.

At many hotels, if you take it down to the front desk or to the lobby restaurant and ask them to nuke it for you they will. But sometimes you’re not at a hotel, or they won’t do it for you.

PS: More hotel hints: Back in the days when you could fly with wine but not with corkscrews (now it’s the exact opposite!) I found that any hotel bar will gladly lend you a corkscrew or even open your (mevushal) bottle for you. And I’ve had the experience of handing a can over to the concierge, and ten minutes later having room service bring it up to my room, open and on a plate :-)

]]> By: SLS http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1909 SLS Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:35:18 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1909 I've been quite impressed with Meal Mart's "Amazing Meals" - Shelf stable, and they can go in any microwave as-is, and be considered double-wrapped. I was ready for some pretty gnarly food, having seen the "LaBriute experience," but I've been pleasantly surprised with every one I have tried (although I can't bring myself to try cholent mid-week). They're finally hitting the shelves here "out-of-town," and the response has been pretty good. I’ve been quite impressed with Meal Mart’s “Amazing Meals” - Shelf stable, and they can go in any microwave as-is, and be considered double-wrapped. I was ready for some pretty gnarly food, having seen the “LaBriute experience,” but I’ve been pleasantly surprised with every one I have tried (although I can’t bring myself to try cholent mid-week). They’re finally hitting the shelves here “out-of-town,” and the response has been pretty good.

]]> By: Marc http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1908 Marc Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:04:50 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1908 Perhaps this is a poignant moment. Perhaps you can become the Kosher Reviewer, which would seem more neutral. If you are our de facto leader and watchdog and you do not affectionately guide and support Kosher products, then who will? Be well. Perhaps this is a poignant moment. Perhaps you can become the Kosher Reviewer, which would seem more neutral. If you are our de facto leader and watchdog and you do not affectionately guide and support Kosher products, then who will? Be well.

]]> By: Kosher Critic http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1907 Kosher Critic Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:23:51 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1907 Marc, I am fine with the fact that you enjoy the La Briute products. However, my experience of the La Briute items mirrored that of Jabbett’s original post. Additionally, I found them to be inferior with respect to quality, taste, convenience and price as compared to the My Own Meals line and that was the point of my post. Kind thanks for your vocabulary lesson though. Marc, I am fine with the fact that you enjoy the La Briute products. However, my experience of the La Briute items mirrored that of Jabbett’s original post. Additionally, I found them to be inferior with respect to quality, taste, convenience and price as compared to the My Own Meals line and that was the point of my post. Kind thanks for your vocabulary lesson though.

]]> By: Marc http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1906 Marc Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:18:58 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1906 Convenient, meaning "near at hand". Convenience store if you need. And it's subpar - not "subpart", Critic. And subpar compared to what? For $5.49 you can get Cheese Ravioli in Tomato Sauce (Dairy - Cholov Yisrael) "with a 36-month, refrigerator- and freezer-free shelf life". It may not be the best ravioli you have ever tasted, but at $5.49 it probably isn't supposed to be the best you've ever tasted. The issue, of course, is free will. You have the choice to complain or not. Critic means "one who expresses a reasoned opinion on any matter especially involving a judgment of its value, truth, righteousness, beauty, or technique". Your use of "inedible" does not appear to fall within that scope. Convenient, meaning “near at hand”. Convenience store if you need. And it’s subpar - not “subpart”, Critic. And subpar compared to what? For $5.49 you can get Cheese Ravioli in Tomato Sauce (Dairy - Cholov Yisrael) “with a 36-month, refrigerator- and freezer-free shelf life”. It may not be the best ravioli you have ever tasted, but at $5.49 it probably isn’t supposed to be the best you’ve ever tasted. The issue, of course, is free will. You have the choice to complain or not. Critic means “one who expresses a reasoned opinion on any matter especially involving a judgment of its value, truth, righteousness, beauty, or technique”. Your use of “inedible” does not appear to fall within that scope.

]]> By: Kosher Critic http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1905 Kosher Critic Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:23:31 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1905 I have no doubt that the donuts from the "convenient" store you mentioned are vastly preferable to what La Briute sells. In fact, I wish I had taken the donuts on my last trip to Europe; at least they would not weighted down my suitcase like the La Briute boxes did. You are right in that I should spend more time thanking G-d but, most assuredly, my thanks will not be for subpart products! I have no doubt that the donuts from the “convenient” store you mentioned are vastly preferable to what La Briute sells. In fact, I wish I had taken the donuts on my last trip to Europe; at least they would not weighted down my suitcase like the La Briute boxes did. You are right in that I should spend more time thanking G-d but, most assuredly, my thanks will not be for subpart products!

]]> By: Marc http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1904 Marc Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:19:55 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1904 Please, stop complaining. I am so tired of hearing complaints when you should be thanking G-d and applauding LaBriute. Do you know what it takes to get into business and stay in business? Do you have any idea? You should buy their products just to keep them in business and donate the food to the needy if you don't like to eat it. "Inedible", hah! Donuts from the convenient store are inedible. Perhaps all of you complainers should study the real world a little bit. Please, stop complaining. I am so tired of hearing complaints when you should be thanking G-d and applauding LaBriute. Do you know what it takes to get into business and stay in business? Do you have any idea? You should buy their products just to keep them in business and donate the food to the needy if you don’t like to eat it. “Inedible”, hah! Donuts from the convenient store are inedible. Perhaps all of you complainers should study the real world a little bit.

]]> By: Anonymous ben Kalonymous http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1903 Anonymous ben Kalonymous Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:46:40 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1903 Rav Abadi is quite often a Daas Yachid. With all due respect, while he is indeed a talmid chachom, his opinions on Kashrus and STa"M, to single out a couple areas, are quite well known to be outside the pale. If that's the only support you can offer, you don't have any, at least not in an Orthodox context. (For the record, I have no idea of the halachic & Shabbos implications of LaBriute, etc. - my comment is on your sourcing. Rav Abadi is a convenient source many turn to when they need to posek-shop for a leniency no one in the Orthodox world holds of.) Rav Abadi is quite often a Daas Yachid. With all due respect, while he is indeed a talmid chachom, his opinions on Kashrus and STa”M, to single out a couple areas, are quite well known to be outside the pale. If that’s the only support you can offer, you don’t have any, at least not in an Orthodox context.

(For the record, I have no idea of the halachic & Shabbos implications of LaBriute, etc. - my comment is on your sourcing. Rav Abadi is a convenient source many turn to when they need to posek-shop for a leniency no one in the Orthodox world holds of.)

]]> By: Shaya http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1902 Shaya Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:25:17 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1902 I asked Rav Hershal Schachter the shabbos issue in regards to the La'briut meals before I went to Japan for a conference. His answer to me "Rav Belsky says its ok, but I think it's problematic". When I asked what problem he saw, it was in regards to molid. I asked Rav Hershal Schachter the shabbos issue in regards to the La’briut meals before I went to Japan for a conference.

His answer to me “Rav Belsky says its ok, but I think it’s problematic”. When I asked what problem he saw, it was in regards to molid.

]]> By: Howie http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1901 Howie Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:43:11 +0000 http://www.kosherblog.net/2004/07/30/la_briute_turkey_and_mashed_potatoes_mea/#comment-1901 Millhouse: Regarding the "most people agree" point, I refer you to Kashrut.org. If you would follow the opinion of Rabbi Yitzhak Abadi (see that website for his bio ... received semicha from Rabbi Aharon Kotler, z"tl, became Posek of Lakewood after Rav Kotler's passing ), then it is muttar: Here is a link to the response to the question of Shabbat use: http://www.kashrut.org/forum/viewpost.asp?mid=5376&highlight=Labriute Millhouse:
Regarding the “most people agree” point, I refer you to Kashrut.org. If you would follow the opinion of Rabbi Yitzhak Abadi (see that website for his bio … received semicha from Rabbi Aharon Kotler, z”tl, became Posek of Lakewood after Rav Kotler’s passing ), then it is muttar:

Here is a link to the response to the question of Shabbat use:

http://www.kashrut.org/forum/viewpost.asp?mid=5376&highlight=Labriute

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